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Watching Classical Games On Lichess TV!!

I just wanted to once again voice my opinion about this as I feel it's somewhat important in the grand scheme of Lichess TV: When I click on "classical", I should not be watching almost entirely 5+5 and 8+0 games. These are, by no standards anywhere, classical chess matches. Can you at least make sure that when we go to watch classical chess games we see games of 15+ min as a primary control? I'd prefer "classical" starting at least with 30+ minutes but most other online sites use 15 so that would seem most fitting.

Coincidentally, I just clicked on classical and am watching a 30+0 for like the first time...ever. Has something already been done about this? If not - Please, get on it eventually guys. It would just make things, including ratings, far more sensible, IMO.
This has been so widely discussed here... *sigh*
The thing is: Lichess considers 5+5 a 'classical' time control and that's not going to change anytime soon, if ever.
For the love of chess, that's stupid, but hey... who am I to say?
#2 we actually could do it, we don't have to search by 'classical' parameters, can also search by time control. Though I still guarantee disappointment. No-one, pretty much no-one on the internet plays out such games properly. So either way, you get rapid chess under a long time control.
@ #4: I keep seeing a few of you saying "NOBODY plays out long games online" but the fact is that you're flat out wrong. There are 90/30 leagues online that are extremely active, there are 45/45 leagues that are overly active, and I regularly see people playing 60/0+ and longer when I log onto any chess server these days. I mean, I've seen this with my own two eyes. It's a fact.

Even on Chess.com right now there's like a dozen 45/45's running. I can assure you, they're being played out "properly". This notion that NOBODY plays out real chess online is just patently false. There are even FIDE and USCF online ratings now as internet chess and long chess are becoming something that go hand in hand increasingly. No doubt that online poker's situation in the US has had at least some effect on this, too.
It's also worth considering that a lot of people would be very, very upset if we changed it after 5 years. Likewise with how FIDE won't drop the Elo system and a bunch of other archaic baggage. It sucks, but let's just say the current top 10 and virtually every person here who plays classical would be severely pissed off (to say the least!). Not to mention all the classical ratings would have to be recalculated anyway.

There is one problem I see though: all that stuff is in leagues of players who actively seek it. In fact, it hurts the credibility of your argument because you basically just said upfront you have to enter a 'club' almost to play longer games.

So the philosophy stands: if you just create a seek for 90+30 on the homepage of chess.com, playchess, whatever, it will quickly devolve into blitz on the opponent's side. This has a reinforcing effect.

But all this is theoretical. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and actually play some long games on here? :P It's just a classification, afterall, the time control is available.
#6

Hellball, your arguments are very weak. I don't know what is the reasoning behind this dubious decision, but if it is what you say, then it is a weak argument.
1. "No one plays out such games" is simply a false statement. Telling OP to "put money where is mouth is" doesn't improve it either... (Have you checked? OP has already put money where is mouth is.)
2. Even if we assume point 1 is true, it does not justify mislabeling. Does not follow logically.
3. "It's also worth considering that a lot of people would be very, very upset if we changed it after 5 years" is a silly defence, as if that justifies not rectifying a dubious decision. Yes, some people might get angry, but after a while, they will get used to it and simply carry on. with their lives. Some ratings will go down, others will go up. Big deal.
4. This has nothing to do with FIDE.
5. "If you just create a seek for 90+30 on the homepage of chess.com, playchess, whatever, it will quickly devolve into blitz on the opponent's side"... Huh? What does that even mean? Are you drunk?
@ Hellball #6: Yeah just two quick points to expand on what hshbang said -

1) I have played long games on here. Just yesterday I played a 35+10 and two 60+10's.

2) 90/30 and 45/45 games do not, as you keep insisting, "devolve" into blitz chess on either opponent's end to any extreme consistency. Plenty, plenty of 90/30 and 45/45 games played on ICC go hours long and the games being played on this chesstempo, chess.com, ICC, etc are so numerous that there ARE full leagues of players that want to compete in them. The fact that there's an 87 team league running for 45/45 chess on ICC isn't an indication of long games being LESS prevalent as you state lol. Obviously. It's evidence as to the popularity of long games. It counters your entire argument. Visit the 90/30 league website. It has a dozen+ 4+ player swiss tournaments running at all times. All times.

In summary, I'm sorry but ...I agree with hshbang in that your argument is totally invalid.
#5

"Even on Chess.com right now there's like a dozen 45/45's running."

I think you've kinda eloquently explained why we've opted to classify things the way we have.

12 active games / 1500 active games on lichess => 0.8%, and considering chess.com is larger than lichess, that proportion would actually be less.

We've classified the time controls the way we have because it offers the most granularity considering the most popular time controls that are played.

It's not really an argument of recalculating being a bitch, as far as I can tell. Yes, it might take the site off for a short amount of time, but it wouldn't be the first time we've had to recalculate from scratch (although it has been a pretty long time since this was done last).

I'd suggest that the correct thing to do is add an additional time control range for Rapid, but I'm not really sure what the gain would be. I.e:

Bullet: 0+1 => 3+0
Blitz: 3+0 => 15+0
Rapid: 15+0 => 30+0
Classical: 30+0 and greater
You're not going to please all of the people, all of the time, but you can please some of the people, some of the time.

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